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Walter  [ 18.09.2002 12:26 ] 
tovz, ¬á¬à¬Õ¬Ö¬Ý¬ð¬ã¬î ¬ã¬Ó¬à¬Ú¬Þ ¬à¬á¬í¬ä¬à¬Þ. ¬¬¬à¬Ô¬Õ¬Ñ ¬Ø¬Ú¬Ý ¬Ó ¬µ¬Ü¬â¬Ñ¬Ú¬ß¬Ö, ¬ä¬à ¬ä¬à¬Ø¬Ö ¬Ú¬ã¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ý ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬å ¬Ù¬Ñ ¬Ô¬â¬Ñ¬ß¬Ú¬è¬Ö¬Û. ¬£ ¬¡¬ß¬Ô¬Ý¬Ú¬Ú ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬é¬Ñ¬Ý¬Ú ¬á¬â¬Ñ¬Ü¬ä¬Ú¬é¬Ö¬ã¬Ü¬Ú ¬Ó¬ã¬Ö ¬Ó ¬ä¬Ö¬é¬Ö¬ß¬Ú¬Ú 1-3 ¬Õ¬ß¬Ö¬Û. ¬±¬â¬Ñ¬Ó¬Õ¬Ñ, ¬Ó¬ã¬Ö ¬Ó¬Ö¬Ø¬Ý¬Ú¬Ó¬à ¬à¬ä¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ù¬í¬Ó¬Ñ¬Ý¬Ú, ¬ã¬ã¬í¬Ý¬Ñ¬ñ¬ã¬î ¬ß¬Ñ ¬Ú¬ç ¬Ù¬Ñ¬Ü¬à¬ß¬à¬Õ¬Ñ¬ä¬Ö¬Ý¬î¬ã¬ä¬Ó¬à. ¬£ ¬³¬º¬¡ ¬Ö¬ã¬Ý¬Ú ¬Ú ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬é¬Ñ¬Ý¬Ú, ¬ä¬à ¬à¬é¬Ö¬ß¬î ¬â¬Ö¬Õ¬Ü¬à.
¬¨¬Ú¬Ó¬ñ ¬Ó ¬¤¬Ö¬â¬Þ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ú¬Ú, ¬â¬Ñ¬Ù¬à¬ã¬Ý¬Ñ¬Ý ¬à¬Ü¬à¬Ý¬à 15 ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ó¬Ö¬â¬Ò¬å¬ß¬Ô¬à¬Ó. ¬¤¬Õ¬Ö-¬ä¬à ¬ä¬â¬Ö¬ä¬î ¬à¬ã¬ä¬Ñ¬Ý¬Ñ¬ã¬î ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ù ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬ä¬Ñ, ¬Ö¬ë¬Ö ¬ß¬Ñ ¬ä¬â¬Ö¬ä¬î ¬á¬à¬Ý¬å¬é¬Ú¬Ý ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬ä¬í, ¬Ü¬à¬Ô¬Õ¬Ñ ¬ñ ¬å¬Ø¬Ö ¬à¬Ò ¬ï¬ä¬Ú¬ç ¬æ¬Ú¬â¬Þ¬Ñ¬ç ¬Ù¬Ñ¬Ò¬í¬Ý. ¬°¬Õ¬ß¬Ñ ¬æ¬Ú¬â¬Þ¬Ñ ¬ß¬Ñ ¬Þ¬à¬Ú ¬Ù¬Ñ¬á¬â¬à¬ã¬í ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬é¬Ñ¬Ý¬Ñ, ¬é¬ä¬à ¬Õ¬à¬Ü¬å¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬ä¬í ¬â¬Ñ¬ã¬ã¬Þ¬Ñ¬ä¬â¬Ú¬Ó¬Ñ¬ð¬ä¬ã¬ñ, ¬ß¬à ¬Ó ¬Ú¬ä¬à¬Ô¬Ö ¬ä¬Ñ¬Ü ¬Ú ¬ß¬Ö ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬ä¬Ú¬Ý¬Ñ.
¬®¬à¬Û ¬ã¬à¬Ó¬Ö¬ä: ¬Ö¬ã¬Ý¬Ú ¬Ó ¬ä¬Ö¬é¬Ö¬ß¬Ú¬Ú ¬Þ¬Ö¬ã¬ñ¬è¬Ñ ¬ß¬Ö ¬á¬â¬Ú¬ç¬à¬Õ¬Ú¬ä ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬ä, ¬á¬Ú¬ê¬Ú ¬Ù¬Ñ¬á¬â¬à¬ã. ¬ä¬Ñ¬Ü¬à¬Ô¬à-¬ä¬à ¬é¬Ú¬ã¬Ý¬Ñ ¬à¬ä¬á¬â¬Ñ¬Ó¬Ý¬ñ¬Ý ¬Ó¬Ñ¬Þ ¬ã¬Ó¬à¬Ú ¬Õ¬à¬Ü¬å¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬ä¬í, ¬ç¬à¬é¬å ¬å¬Ù¬ß¬Ñ¬ä¬î ¬ã¬à¬ã¬ä¬à¬ñ¬ß¬Ú¬Ö ¬ã¬Ó¬à¬Ú¬ç ¬Õ¬Ö¬Ý.
 

still  [ 18.09.2002 13:36 ] 
¬¬¬â¬Ú¬Ù¬Ú¬ã. ¬Á ¬ä¬Ñ¬Ü ¬á¬à¬ß¬Ú¬Þ¬Ñ¬ð, ¬é¬ä¬à ¬ß¬Ñ ¬ã¬Ö¬Ô¬à¬Õ¬ß¬ñ ¬ß¬Ö¬ä ¬à¬ã¬à¬Ò¬í¬ç ¬á¬â¬à¬Ò¬Ý¬Ö¬Þ ¬ß¬Ñ¬Û¬ä¬Ú ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬ß¬Ú¬Ü¬Ñ ¬Ó¬ß¬å¬ä¬â¬Ú ¬ã¬ä¬â¬Ñ¬ß¬í. ¬©¬Ñ¬é¬Ö¬Þ ¬Ø¬Ö ¬ã¬Ó¬ñ¬Ù¬í¬Ó¬Ñ¬ä¬î¬ã¬ñ ¬ã ¬Ú¬ß¬à¬ã¬ä¬â¬Ñ¬ß¬è¬Ö¬Þ?

¬¡ ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬é¬Ñ¬ð¬ä, ¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ü Walter ¬ß¬Ñ¬á¬Ú¬ã¬Ñ¬Ý. ¬ª¬Ý¬Ú ¬ä¬Ú¬ê¬Ú¬ß¬Ñ, ¬Ú¬Ý¬Ú ¬à¬é¬Ö¬ß¬î ¬ß¬Ö¬ã¬Ü¬à¬â¬à. ¬µ ¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬ñ ¬â¬Ö¬Ü¬à¬â¬Õ ¬Ô¬Õ¬Ö-¬ä¬à ¬á¬à¬Ý¬Ô¬à¬Õ¬Ñ.
 

tovz  [ 18.09.2002 13:50 ] 
Walter ¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬ñ ¬á¬â¬à¬ã¬ä¬à ¬å¬Õ¬Ú¬Ó¬Ú¬Ý. ¬°¬ß ¬ß¬Ñ¬Ó¬Ö¬â¬ß¬à¬Ö ¬Õ¬à¬Ü¬ä¬à¬â ¬ß¬Ñ¬å¬Ü ¬ã ¬à¬Ò¬à¬â¬à¬ß¬ß¬à¬Ô¬à ¬á¬â¬Ö¬Õ¬á¬â¬Ú¬ñ¬ä¬Ú¬ñ :) ¬µ ¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬ñ ¬ß¬Ñ ¬ã¬ä¬à ¬á¬Ú¬ã¬Ö¬Þ ¬à¬Õ¬Ú¬ß ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬ä ¬Ú ¬ä¬à¬ä ¬Þ¬Ú¬Þ¬à. ¬£¬à¬Ù¬Þ¬à¬Ø¬ß¬à ¬Ú¬Ù-¬Ù¬Ñ ¬Ü¬â¬Ú¬Ù¬Ú¬ã¬Ñ... ¬¯¬à ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬Ñ¬ä¬î ¬à¬ç¬à¬ä¬Ñ - ¬ã¬Ú¬Ý ¬ß¬Ö¬ä :)
 

still  [ 18.09.2002 13:52 ] 
>¬µ ¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬ñ ¬ß¬Ñ ¬ã¬ä¬à ¬á¬Ú¬ã¬Ö¬Þ ¬à¬Õ¬Ú¬ß ¬à¬ä¬Ó¬Ö¬ä ¬Ú ¬ä¬à¬ä ¬Þ¬Ú¬Þ¬à.

¬£¬í ¬Ø¬Ö ¬á¬Ú¬ê¬Ú¬ä¬Ö ¬ß¬Ñ ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ô¬Ý¬Ú¬Û¬ã¬Ü¬à¬Þ ¬Ú¬Ù ¬²¬à¬ã¬ã¬Ú¬Ú, ¬Ñ ¬à¬ß ¬ß¬Ñ ¬ß¬Ö¬Þ¬Ö¬è¬Ü¬à¬Þ ¬Ú¬Ù ¬¤¬Ö¬â¬Þ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ú¬Ú. ¬±¬à¬é¬å¬Ó¬ã¬ä¬Ó¬å¬Û¬ä¬Ö ¬â¬Ñ¬Ù¬ß¬Ú¬è¬å.
 

..lamo..  [ 18.09.2002 13:54 ] 
> FOREIGN LANGUAGES:
> English - speak with difficulties
> German - poor

¬¥¬Ñ ¬Ó¬í, ¬ä¬à¬Ó¬Ñ¬â¬Ú¬ã¬é, ¬ß¬Ñ¬Õ ¬ß¬Ñ¬Þ¬Ú ¬á¬â¬à¬ã¬ä¬à ¬Ú¬Ù¬Õ¬Ö¬Ó¬Ñ¬Ö¬ä¬Ö¬ã¬î. ¬ª ¬ß¬Ñ¬Õ ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬à¬Õ¬Ñ¬ä¬Ö¬Ý¬ñ¬Þ¬Ú ¬Õ¬à ¬Ü¬å¬é¬Ú. ¬¹¬ä¬à¬Ò ¬ã¬Ö¬Û¬é¬Ñ¬ã ¬ß¬Ñ¬Û¬ä¬Ú ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬å ¬Ó ¬¤¬Ö¬â¬Þ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ú¬Ú, ¬ß¬Ñ¬Õ¬à ¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ü ¬Þ¬Ú¬ß¬Ú¬Þ¬å¬Þ English written and spoken, Deutsch ¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ü ¬Þ¬Ú¬ß¬Ú¬Þ¬å¬Þ flie©¬end, ¬Ñ ¬Ý¬å¬é¬ê¬Ö Muttersprache...
 

tovz  [ 18.09.2002 14:00 ] 
¬¿¬ä¬à ¬å¬ã¬ä¬Ñ¬â¬Ö¬Ó¬ê¬Ú¬Ö ¬Õ¬Ñ¬ß¬ß¬í¬Ö. ¬©¬Ñ ¬Ó¬â¬Ö¬Þ¬ñ ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ù¬Õ¬Ö¬Ý¬Ú¬ñ ¬ñ ¬á¬à¬Õ¬ä¬ñ¬ß¬å¬Ý ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ô¬Ý¬Ú¬Û¬ã¬Ü¬Ú¬Û.
 

..lamo..  [ 18.09.2002 14:13 ] 
¬£¬ã¬Ö ¬â¬Ñ¬Ó¬ß¬à, ¬á¬à¬Ú¬ã¬Ü ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬í ¬á¬â¬Ñ¬Ü¬ä¬Ú¬é¬Ö¬ã¬Ü¬Ú ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ù ¬Ù¬ß¬Ñ¬ß¬Ú¬Û ¬ß¬Ö¬Þ¬Ö¬è¬Ü¬à¬Ô¬à ¬ã¬Ö¬Û¬é¬Ñ¬ã ¬Ù¬Ñ¬ß¬ñ¬ä¬Ú¬Ö ¬ä¬ñ¬Ø¬Ö¬Ý¬à¬Ö, ¬Ñ ¬ß¬Ö ¬Ú¬Ù ¬¤¬Ö¬â¬Þ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ú¬Ú - ¬á¬à¬é¬ä¬Ú ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ù¬ß¬Ñ¬Õ¬Ö¬Ø¬ß¬à¬Ö.
 

..lamo..  [ 18.09.2002 14:15 ] 
¬¬¬ã¬ä¬Ñ¬ä¬Ú ¬à "¬Ó¬â¬Ö¬Þ¬Ö¬ß¬Ú ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ù¬Õ¬Ö¬Ý¬Ú¬ñ" - ¬Ô¬à¬Õ ¬Ò¬Ö¬Ù ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬í = ¬Ò¬à¬Ý¬î¬ê¬à¬Û ¬Ú ¬Ø¬Ú¬â¬ß¬í¬Û ¬Þ¬Ú¬ß¬å¬ã. JFYI.
 

¬°¬Ò¬à¬Ô¬â¬Ö¬Ó  [ 18.09.2002 14:19 ] 
¬®¬Õ¬Ñ..
¬Ñ ¬â¬Ö¬Ù¬ð¬Þ¬Ö ¬á¬à ¬Ñ¬ß¬Ô¬Ý¬Ú¬Û¬ã¬Ü¬Ú, ¬Ñ ¬ß¬Ö ¬í¬ß¬ç¬Ý¬Ú¬Û¬ã¬Ü¬Ú ¬ß¬Ñ¬á¬Ú¬ã¬Ñ¬ä¬î?
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¬¯¬Ñ ¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ü¬à¬Þ ¬ñ¬Ù¬í¬Ü¬Ö ¬ä¬í ¬ã¬à¬Ò¬â¬Ñ¬Ý¬ã¬ñ ¬ã ¬Ü¬à¬Ý¬Ý¬Ö¬Ô¬Ñ¬Þ¬Ú ¬à¬Ò¬ë¬Ñ¬ä¬î¬ã¬ñ?
 

oldDad    [ 18.09.2002 14:36 ] 
¬£¬à¬ä ¬Ó ¬Ü¬à¬ä¬à¬â¬í¬Û ¬â¬Ñ¬Ù ¬å¬Õ¬Ú¬Ó¬Ý¬ñ¬ð¬ã¬î: ¬Ý¬ð¬Õ¬Ú ¬Ó ¬²¬à¬ã¬ã¬Ú ¬á¬à¬é¬Ö¬Þ¬å-¬ä¬à ¬á¬à¬Ý¬Ñ¬Ô¬Ñ¬ð¬ä, ¬é¬ä¬à ¬ä¬å¬ä, ¬ä¬Ú¬á¬Ñ, ¬©¬Ñ¬á¬Ñ¬Õ, ¬á¬à¬ï¬ä¬à¬Þ¬å everybody speaks english, ¬Ñ ¬ß¬Ö¬Þ¬Ö¬è¬Ü¬Ú¬Û - ¬ï¬ä¬à ¬ä¬Ñ¬Ü, ¬Õ¬Ý¬ñ ¬Ý¬à¬ç¬°¬Ó...

¬±¬â¬Ö¬Õ¬ã¬ä¬Ñ¬Ó¬î¬ä¬Ö ¬ã¬Ö¬Ò¬Ö, ¬é¬ä¬à ¬£¬Ñ¬Þ ¬Ó ¬²¬à¬ã¬ã¬Ú¬ð ¬ß¬Ñ¬á¬Ú¬ã¬Ñ¬Ý ¬ß¬Ö¬Ü¬ä¬à ¬Ù¬Ñ¬ñ¬Ó¬Ý¬Ö¬ß¬Ú¬Ö ¬à ¬á¬â¬Ú¬×¬Þ¬Ö ¬ß¬Ñ ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬å ¬ß¬Ñ ¬Ý¬Ú¬ä¬à¬Ó¬ã¬Ü¬à¬Þ ¬ñ¬Ù¬í¬Ü¬Ö, ¬å¬Ü¬Ñ¬Ù¬Ñ¬Ó ¬á¬â¬Ú ¬ï¬ä¬à¬Þ, ¬é¬ä¬à ¬Ü¬â¬à¬Þ¬Ö ¬Ý¬Ú¬ä¬à¬Ó¬ã¬Ü¬à¬Ô¬à (with difficulties) ¬Ù¬ß¬Ñ¬Ö¬ä ¬Ö¬ë¬Ö ¬ß¬Ö¬ã¬Ü¬à¬Ý¬î¬Ü¬à ¬ã¬Ý¬à¬Ó ¬á¬à-¬â¬å¬ã¬ã¬Ü¬Ú. ¬£¬Ù¬ñ¬Ý¬Ú ¬Ò¬í ¬ß¬Ñ ¬â¬Ñ¬Ò¬à¬ä¬å? ¬Á - ¬ß¬Ö¬ä.