Russia is not a 862

Fig. BP Villevalde unveiling of the monument the 1000th anniversary of Russia in Novgorod in 1862

http://www.proza.ru/2011/05/12/319

Russia is not a 862

In the last century, three in the consciousness of humanity and of Russians approved version of that state on the Russian land has gone from Varangian Normans. This version is recognized by the kings of the Empire era of the Romanovs. And in honor of the date of calling Vikings in Veliky Novgorod in 1862, shortly after the abolition of serfdom, was a monument to the Millennium of Russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_of_Russia

1150th anniversary of the statehood of Russia said in 2012, along with the 200th anniversary of the victory over Napoleon, and other important dates of national history. At the same time to forget the well-known since the 16th century attitude of the authorities of Muscovy, that Moscow - the Third Rome.
Ivan the Terrible in the second message, the Swedish king Johann III (Johan III; 1573) pointed out: "As far as printing Roman Empire, about which you wrote, then we have our own stamp of our forefathers, and the Roman seal, we also no stranger: we are genus from August Caesar .... " In its diplomatic messages Terrible repeatedly developed version of the origin of the authorities of Russia, "Augusta Caesar." In the charter the Polish King Sigismund Augustus in 1556, wrote: "And we as a sovereign kristyansky, put your trust in Almighty God, keep their eternal honor and old grandparent, pochen from Augusta to Caesar and the Grand Duke Vladimer, who baptized the Russian land ... "In 1563, the boyars said on behalf of the Polish ambassadors," ... We both have rulers from Augustus Caesar pochen possessing with all the universe, his brother Prus ... »http://historic.ru/books/item/f00/s00/z0000112/st028.shtml I must say that Caesar's altars and Macedonia were on the way kings of ancient Aorses north. http://www.trinitas.ru/rus/doc/0211/008a/02111131.htm
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Admit that the first thesis on the origin of Vikings from Sweden put forward the name of King Johan III (his son Sigismund, brought up in Catholicism, in 1587, was elected King of Poland (Zygmunt III) in the diplomatic correspondence with Ivan the Terrible. Normanism He developed a Swedish diplomat Peter Peter de Erlezunda in book «Regin Muschowitici Sciographia». He then supported the royal historian Johan Videkind in «Thet svenska i Ryssland tijo; hrs krijgs historie». a great influence on subsequent Normanists had Olaf Dalin "History of the Swedish state." Therefore, to reduce the origins of the German historians Normanism in Russian Academy of Sciences, since Gottlieb Siegfried Bayer - is wrong. In a world dominated historiography Normanism.
http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normansk (+ Russian Wikipedia)

The dating of many events in the past - a complicated and conditional. Russian-American scholar G. Vernadsky his book "Ancient Rus» http://www.kulichki.com/ ~ gumilev/VGV/vgv1.htm devoted to the country's history from Paleolithic times. In the Paleolithic origins of the epic memory of ancestors of the Slavs have Academician BA Rybakov http://paganism.msk.ru/liter/rybakov01.htm Internet today is filled with hundreds of publications about the real depths of Russian history.

Geological history of any land, including Russia, billions of years - and the planet. Anthropological begins with the onset of the first people in the area. They should recognize the stone tools. The Russians know Diringskaya culture, the culture Deering Yuryakh - Paleolithic archaeological culture, located on the territory of Yakutia, a stream Deering Yuryakh, which flows into the Lena River (now - in the Natural Park "Lena Pillars"). Independent dating methods diringskoy culture were published in 1997 by American scientists (Michael R. Waters, Steven L. Forman and James M. Pierson). According to the analysis of thermoluminescence implements of quartzite, age of the deposits with the cultural remnants ranged from 260 000 to 370 thousand years. Although the type of primitivizny archaeologists date the culture time 3.2 - 1.8 million years ago. This is one of the arguments of the theory of polycentric - the original formation of people in different parts of the world http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Approximately 1.5 million years give archaeologists paleolithic parking Knights and springs on the Taman peninsula in the south of Russia. Relatively far from here in Georgia found the remains of early man, whose age is close to 2 million years.
 http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Археологическая_культура
http://www.grani.ru/Society/Science/m.127603.html
http://www.tvscience.ru/2009/09/15/gruziya-rodina-homo-erectus/
Of course, to the real states is still very far from here. However, early humans and the earth present Russia has somehow mastered.
Today, many theories competing states, which reflect and Wikipedia.
• 2 mythological and religious concepts of the origin state
o 2.1 Ancient Greek theory
o 2.2 Theory of Ayurveda
o 2.3 Ancient Chinese theory
o 2.4 Theological Theory
o 2.5 Theological theory in contemporary
• 3-patriarchal and paternalistic concept of the origin state
o 3.1 paternalist theory
o 3.2 patriarchal theory
• 4 organic conception of the origin state
o 4.1 Theory of Auguste Comte
o 4.2 Theory of Herbert Spencer
o 4.3 Theories of other members of the organic school
• 5 course-legal (contractual) concept of the origin state
o 5.1 Theory of Hugo Grotius
o 5.2 Theory of Thomas Hobbes
o 5.3 Theory of John Locke
o 5.4 Theory of Jean Jacques Rousseau
• 6 Violent concept of the origin state
o 6.1 Theory Eugene Duhring
o 6.2 Theory of Ludwig Gumplowicz
o 6.3 Theory of Karl Kautsky
• 7 psychological concept of the origin state
o 7.1 Theory TD Bashtima
o 7.2 Theory Nicholas Korkunov
o 7.3 Theory of Leo Petrazhitsky
• 8 The Marxist concept of the origin state
o 8.1 State by Engels
o 8.2 State of Lenin
• 9 Some of the concept of the state of origin
o 9.1-libertarian legal theory
o 9.2 patrimonial theory
• 10 voluntaristic theory
o 10.1 Irrigation Theory
o 10.2 Race Theory
o 10.3 Demographic theory
o 10.4 Crisis Theory
o 10.5 The theory of "incest", etc.
Immediately people today continue to ethnogonic people who were formed in the Upper Paleolithic. Their paths now relatively accurately trace on Haplogroups. And in some regions could emerge something like a primitive state of education - the chief, brave warriors, hunters, organizational institutions.

Most likely these states were formed in the Paleolithic sites of subsidence (for centuries, and sometimes thousands of years), carriers of different male and female haplogroups (above the blue dots in the diagrams). Ranges of these states may reflect the type of archaeological cultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeological_culture (details in the Russian Wikipedia.)
Here the mass of unresolved theoretical and practical issues. But archaeologists traced the explicit involvement of large regions with a population of thousands of people in a relatively unified cultural-historical process. The emergence of large homes and villages. Burial funeral rites with a rather complicated symbolism. Paleolithic Venus. Painting on cave walls. Relatively advanced okolonostraticheskie languages. The increasing stratification by region. Tools, allowing for their military use. Reflection Paleolithic wars in the epic, including the Titans (characters powerful Neanderthals?) And gods (symbols of new people skills). Symbolization of early states in the Atlantis of Plato, etc. Foci of early state formations can be traced to the lands of Great Scythia, where thousands of years delineated medieval Rous (Rus) - the name has more to do with the Byzantines with the prince of Rosh bileyskim (Rus). But the root of r - s, and was known for Nostratic languages http://www.proza.ru/2010/06/20/451
On the development of Upper Paleolithic people and the lands Russia says number of archaeological cultures.
If you mainly affect Europe, it (the spread of Culture Time Location Recording)
Kostenki, Musketeers [3] 50 000 BC. Oe. - 30,000 BC. Oe. The southern and central regions of the Russian Plain neanthropines
Kostenki-Avdeevskiy 22 000 BC. Oe. - 19000 BC. Oe. The southern and central regions of the Russian Plain, East Cro-Magnon
Sviderskaja (often referred to as the Mesolithic) 8800 BC. Oe. - 8000 BC. Oe. Poland, Lithuania, Belarus (with counterparts in Ukraine, Russia, and south of the Black Sea) neanthropines
Period studied thoroughly in many papers, and reflected on the Internet
A. A. Klyosov and AA Tyunyaev. The Descent of Man (according to archeology, anthropology, and DNA genealogy.) 2010, p. 1024
AA Klyosov. The origin of the Slavs and other peoples. Essays on DNA genealogy. 2011, 645 p.
Tyunyaev AA, History of World Civilization (systems analysis). - Moscow: 2006 - 2009. Internet
Yuriy Semenov (1929) - Russian historian and philosopher, a specialist in epistemology, philosophy, history, ethnology, history, prehistoric and early class society, PhD, Doctor of Historical Sciences.
Introduction to world history. Issue I. The problem and the conceptual apparatus. The emergence of human society
http://scepsis.ru/library/id_1036.html
Yes, and P. Zolina can be quite a find. http://www.proza.ru/avtor/zolinpm

If people are disappearing from some areas (died of disease and war have migrated), then "the history of early statehood," here interrupted. But often the descendants of ancestors return to earth. And continued their tradition - even if the burial rites, worship their gods and heroes. It turns out that continued and spiritual elements of statehood. Such stories reflect the returns from the myths and epics. The Slavs, for example, The Legend of Slovenia and Ruse.
Places of worship and burial grounds as sacred - an important indicator of the early communities that had elements of statehood.

When about 512 BC Darius 1 in the Northern Black Sea rebuked the king of Great Scythia Antirio (Idantirsa, etc.) in cowardice (the Scythians wore down and luring enemies into the depths of its territory), he heard the answer:
"My situation is the king! I have never before had fled out of fear of someone or running away now and not from you. And now I'm doing the same, as is usual in times of peace. Why do not I immediately went into the battle with you - I will also explain. We've no towns, no cultivated land. We are not afraid of their ruin and desolation, and therefore not engaged in battle with you immediately. If you want by all means to fight us, then here we have our fathers grave. Find them and try to destroy it, and then you will know whether we fight over the grave or not. But as long as we do not fit, we will enter into battle with you. This [I said] about the battle. Lords of the same I admit my only Zeus and Hestia, the Queen of the Scythians. You, instead of gifts - land and water - I will send other gifts, which you deserve. And for what you call yourself my lord, you're more expensive to pay ". Such was the response of the Scythians.
http://www.vehi.net/istoriya/grecia/gerodot/04.html
Herodotus was aware of these places and funeral rites of the Scythians.
"The tombs are located in Guerra (before Borisfen more navigable, probably Kamensky District in the Dnieper rapids, now a region Dniproges: PZ). When the Scythians dying king, and there dig a large rectangular pit. After preparing the hole, the body lift on a cart, covered with wax, then cut the stomach of the deceased; then cleaned and filled with crushed his keeper, spices and seeds of anise and selereya (This method of embalming is known and Altaians (Hiung well), from which the region and neighboring haplogroups derive the carrier male R, N and Q, women's A, B and X. Kiper - the plant Cyperus rotundus. Celery - Areim graveolens. Anise - Pimpinella anisum: Comments translators: PZ) .. Then again, the stomach is sewn up and taken by cart to a different tribe. Residents of each area where the body of the king brought under this act the same way as the Royal Scythians. They cut a piece of his ear in a circle obstrigayut hair, make an incision around the arm, scratch forehead and nose pierced and my left hand arrows. Then driven away the corpse in a cart to another part of his kingdom. Accompany the body of those to whom it was brought before (like some used in the embalming of Lenin's funeral and Stalin, who later was re: PZ).
After a detour of all areas they once again come to Guerra to the tribes living in the remotest limits of the country, and the royal tombs. There's a body on the litter is lowered into the grave, on both sides are stuck in the land of the spear, and the top plank board and cover them with reed mats. Otherwise, a vast expanse of graves to bury a king's concubines, after strangling her, and butlers, cooks, grooms, bodyguards, messengers, horses, and the firstborn of all other animals, as well as lay the golden bowl (silver and copper vessels for the Scythians did not use). After this all together is poured over the grave of a big hill, and vied with each other trying to make it as high as possible (Scythian burial mounds are known from Central Europe to Siberia: PZ).
72. A year later, they again commit such funeral rites of the other servants of the late king's chosen the most zealous (they are all native Scythians: after all, whom the king orders, should serve him; purchased as slaves for the money the king does not happen). So, they were sacrificed 50 strangulation of his servants (as of 50 most beautiful horses), extracted from the bodies of the interior, the womb is cleaned and filled with bran, and then sewn up. Then the two wooden pillars reinforce the wheel rim half concave and the other half - the other two pillars. Thus, they hammered a lot of wooden struts and rims, then pierced with stakes horses, thick full-length body to the neck, pick up on the rims. The front rims are kept horses shoulders, and back prop up their stomachs at the hips. Front and rear legs hanging down their horses, without taking up land. Then the horses' bridles to wear the bit, then pull on the bridle and tie them to the pegs. All 50 youths strangled to put the horses in the following way: in the body of each stick along the spine straight until the count of the neck. Protruding from the body of the lower end of the stake is inserted into a hole drilled in a different cola, pierce through the body of a horse. Putting around the tomb of riders, leaving the Scythians (exhibited around the tomb guards later replaced by stone figures (Altai called them "balbal" - comments translators: PZ).
73. Thus the Scythians to bury their kings. When the death of all other Scythians, the closest relatives put the body on a cart and carry on throughout the district with friends. All his friends are taking the dead and arrange the accompanying food, and brings the dead and eat the same dishes as the rest. Ordinary people carry so by the district for forty days, and then bury. After the burial the Scythians cleanse themselves in the following way: first anoint thee, and then washed his head and the body [is purified by steam bath], in doing so: install three poles, the upper ends inclined to each other, and adhesive qualities of wool felt, then, then tightening felt as tight as possible and thrown into a vat, placed in the middle of the tents (yurts, etc.), red-hot stones. " http://www.vehi.net/istoriya/grecia/gerodot/04.html
http://www.vehi.net/istoriya/grecia/gerodot/04.html # _ftn54
Burial funeral rites are known to tens of thousands of Russian lands. Celebrate the 40 days passed, and many Russians today. For funeral rites and is characterized by abundant funeral banquet.
Herodotus wrote about the origins and legends of the state of the Scythians.
"5. According to the accounts of the Scythians, their people - all younger. And it happened that way. The first inhabitants of this country still uninhabited then was a man named Targitay. Parents of Targitai, as they say the Scythians were Zeus and the daughter of the river Borisphen (I will of course do not believe, in spite of their approval). This kind was Targitai, and he had three sons: Lipoksais, Arpoksais and the youngest - Kolaksais. Their reign on earth with the Scythian gold objects skies: the plow, yoke, ax and a bowl (the characters have largely agricultural people: PZ). First saw these things older brother. As soon as he came to pick them as gold flamed. Then he stepped back and approached the second brother, and gold was again engulfed in flames. So glowing gold fever drove the two brothers, but when he came third, younger brother, the flame was extinguished, and he took the gold to his house. Therefore, older brothers agreed to give the kingdom of the youngest.
6. So, from Lipoksaisa, as they say, there was a Scythian tribe called avhatami, from the middle brother - the tribe and katiarov traspiev, and from the younger of the brothers - the king - paralatov tribe. All the tribes are collectively called Scoloti, ie Royal. The Greeks also call them Scythians.
7. So tell us about the origin of the Scythians of his people. They think, however, that since the first king of Targitai before the invasion of their land Darius was just only 1,000 years ("millennial kingdom" in the epic depth and have a few thousand years, if you follow the text literally - we are talking about thousands of mid-P BC, the Hittites and Mitanni times: PZ). Referred to the sacred gold objects Scythian kings was carefully guarded and reverently worshiped them, bringing the annual rich victim. If somebody falls asleep at a party outdoors with these sacred gold, in the opinion of the Scythians, and will not survive the year. Therefore, the Scythians give him as much land as he could one day overtake the horse (in fact, a ritual form of consolidation of private property: PZ). Since the land they had plenty, then divided it Kolaksais, as relayed by the Scythians, into three kingdoms between his three sons. The largest he had the kingdom, where gold was kept. In the field, which lies farther to the north of the land of the Scythians, as passed, nothing could be seen and there can not penetrate because of the flying feathers. Indeed, land and air is full of feathers, which then interferes with vision (associated with snow, blowing snow and vyugoy: PZ).
8. Thus the Scythians themselves talk about themselves and their neighboring Nordic countries. The Greeks also, that they live in Ponte convey otherwise. Hercules, driving bulls Geryon, arrived in this country then uninhabited (now occupied by her Scythians). Geryon (Hydra Russian epic PZ) also lived away from Pontus, on the island in the ocean at Ghadir for Heracles Pillars (the island that the Greeks called Erief, Gibraltar, knowledge, at least since the time of the Phoenicians and the "Sea Peoples" - P.Z ..) Ocean, according to the Greeks, flowing, from sunrise, around the whole earth, but to prove that they can not. From there it came to Hercules, and now the so-called country of the Scythians. There he found the bad weather and cold. Wrapped in a pig's skin, he fell asleep, but this time his harness horses (he let them graze) miraculously disappeared.
9. Awake, Hercules proceeded throughout the country in search of horses, and finally arrived in the land on behalf of Gilea. There's a cave he found a certain creature of mixed nature - poludevu, poluzmeyu. The upper part of the body from the buttocks she was female, and the bottom - the snake. Seeing her, Hercules asked in surprise, she did not see whether it got lost somewhere on the horses. In response, the snake woman said that her horses, but she will not give them as long as Heracles did not come to her in a love relationship. Then Hercules for such awards united with this woman. But she hesitated to give their horses, wanting to retain as much as possible in their Hercules, and he would gladly have retired from the horses. Finally the woman gave the horses, saying: "Horses of these that came to me, I kept for you, you give now for ransom. After all, I have three sons from you. Tell me, what I do with them when they grow up? Whether to leave them here (because I speak a this country), or send to you? ". So she asked. Hercules also said this: "When you see that his sons grew up, it's best you do so: see which of them would like this to pull my bow and was surrounded by this belt, as I point out to you, leave that to live here. The same one who does not comply with my instructions, and went to foreign lands. If you do that, then she will remain happy and fulfill my desire. "
10. With these words, Heracles pulled one of his arrows (until after Hercules was wearing two bows). Then, showing how gird, he gave a bow and belt (belt buckles at the end hung a golden cup), and left. When the children grew up, his mother gave them names. One called Agathyrs, another Gelon, and younger Skif. Then, remembering the advice of Hercules, she was admitted, as ordered Hercules. Two sons - Agathyrs Gelon and could not cope with the problem, and his mother drove them out of the country. The youngest is, the Scythians, the task failed, and he remained in the country. From this Skif, the son of Hercules, came all the Scythian kings. And in memory of the golden bowl and still to this day the Scythians are the cup on his belt (it only took her mother for the benefit of the Scythians).
11. There is a third story (it myself most of all trust.) It says so. The nomadic tribes of the Scythians lived in Asia. When massagets drove them out by force, the Scythians crossed the Araks River and arrived in the Cimmerian land (country, now inhabited by the Scythians, as they say, anciently belonged to the Cimmerians, the end of the 8th century BC: PZ). With the approach of the Scythians Cimmerians began to take counsel what they should do in the face of numerous enemy troops. And so on the advice, opinion was divided. Although both sides have stubbornly stood his ground, but the proposal won the Kings. The people were in retreat, putting an unnecessary fight with so many enemies. The kings, in contrast, felt the need to protect their land hard against invaders. So, people did not heed the advice of the kings, and kings do not want to obey the people. The people decided to leave the country and give their land to the invaders without a fight, kings, by contrast, chose rather to lie with the bones in his native land, than to flee with his people. After all, the kings were clear what they tasted great happiness in his native land, and what troubles await exiled, deprived of their homeland. By adopting such a decision, the Cimmerians were divided into two equal parts, and began fighting among themselves.
All died in the fratricidal war of the people buried in the river Cimmerian Tiras (the tomb of the kings there can be seen even today). After that the Cimmerians had left their land and took possession of the Scythians came desolate country.
12. And now, back in the Scythian land are Cimmerian Cimmerian ferry and strengthening, and there is also the area on behalf of Cimmeria and the so-called Cimmerian Bosporus. Fleeing from the Scythians in Asia, the Cimmerians, as is well known, occupied the peninsula where now the Hellenic city of Sinope (now version has a lot of evidence: PZ). It is also known that the Scythians in the pursuit of the Cimmerians have lost their way and entered the land of the Medes. After the Cimmerians moved constantly along the coast of Pontus, the Scythians also held during the pursuit to the left of the Caucasus, has not yet invaded the land of the Medes. So, they turned inland. This last story convey the same as the Greeks and barbarians. "
 http://www.vehi.net/istoriya/grecia/gerodot/04.html # _ftn54
Herodotus recorded the legend indicate the appearance of multi-ethnic state with the Scythians since the beginning of agriculture and animal husbandry. At the same time with Hercules zmeenogoy Goddess of the Scythians inhabits the desert and a cold country, apparently only recently freed from the influence of the glacier.

Fig. Images of the Goddess of the Scythians zmeenogoy - Api (compare with Gaia)
http://forum.vgd.ru/file.php?a=preview&fid=76597&key=1350790656
From the youngest son of Heracles went to the ancient Greeks, all the Royal Scythians. Epics here indicates the origin of the heroic rulers north of the Black and Caspian seas thousands of years ago. Giant belt, belt wrestling, ability to control powerful weapons - many thousands tradition Scythian lands.
The absence of a legend about the origin of the Scythians from Hercules, in particular, a significant "gold" (only in the cup on his belt) points to its great antiquity, compared with the tales of the Scythians themselves about the time Targitai. At the same time on one version of the Scythians existed before Heracles, who taught archery Tevtar skiff.

Long before our era there was more civilized version of the ancient Scythians, even compared with the Egyptians. As noted by soundly knowing the problem of AI Ivancsik, concept, and idealized udrevnyavshaya Scythians, and attributed to them victory over the Egyptians, the historian goes back to the IV century BC. Oe. Eforie (Ivancsik AI On the eve of colonization. North Pontic steppe nomads and the VIII-VII centuries. BC. Oe. In the ancient literary tradition. M.-Berlin, 2005). Thus, in contrast to Herodotus, the Scythians out to be not the youngest and oldest people. Dialogue Egyptians and the Scythians of ancient words of the historian of Pompey led the trough in the 3rd century BC Justin (Yustin. Epitoma Pompey trough II, 1, 5-21).
Diodorus of Sicily for more than twenty centuries ago, also led one of the ancient versions. Supposedly the ancestors of the Scythians originally lived closer to India (this is confirmed by the experts Haplogroups). They occupied a small area, but gradually strengthened by the courage and military forces conquered a vast territory and have earned great fame and dominion. This version is then evolved in different ways, been reflected in the trough of Pompey, Justine and their followers.
First, the Scythians lived in very small quantities in the Aras River (there are versions of localization is sometimes associated with the Syr-Darya), and were despised for their infamy. But even in ancient times under the control of one militant and contrasted with the strategic skills acquired himself the king of the country in the mountains of the Caucasus, and in the lowlands of the coastal ocean (he was surrounded by representations of early antiquity the whole earth), and Meotiyskogo Lake (Azov Sea) and other areas to the river Tanais (Don).
"Later, on the Scythian legends appeared they born virgin land, in which the upper body from the waist up was female, and the bottom - a snake (an analog-poludeve poluzmei Herodotus). Zeus, to copulate with her (in Herodotus was forced to marry Hercules Maiden), produced a son named Skif (from Hercules were still Agathyrs and Gelon) which, surpassing the glory of all his predecessors, has called people by name by the Scythians. Among the descendants of the king were two brothers, distinguished valor, one of whom was named Pal, and another - Nap. (4) When they made the glorious deeds and shared the kingdom, on behalf of each of them identified themselves as nations, one PALAMI and other napami. After some time the descendants of these kings, distinguished by courage and strategic talent, had conquered a vast country beyond the river Tanais to Thrace, and directing military operations in the other direction, extended their dominion to the Egyptian Nile. "
In late medieval accounts of Slovenia and the Ruse of these martial achievements are associated with the descendants of the Word and the Roos.
"Enslaving ourselves many major tribes living between these limits, they extended the domination of the Scythians on the one hand to the eastern ocean, the other to the Caspian Sea and Lake Meotiyskogo, for this tribe is widely grown and there has been great kings, on whose behalf some were called Sakas Massagets others, some like them arimasps and many others. These kings were relocated, and many other conquered tribes, and most important evictions were two: one from Assyria in the land between Paphlagonia and Pontus, another of the Medes, who founded the river Tanais, these settlers were called Savromat "(here the echoes of the real events of 9 - 7 cc . BC. e..)
"These past many years, becoming more, devastated a significant part of Scythia, and exterminated the vanquished, turned much of the country into a desert" (the reality in some regions of the Northern Black Sea Region 8 - 7 cc. BC. E..) Modern mifovedenie admits that the version of Diodorus of Sicily reflects the earliest versions of the epic itself Scythians. Father called the Scythian is Zeus, not Hercules, which puts his birth in more ancient times, the descendants of Scythian named Pal and Knap, divided between the kingdom and conquered several nations. After that Diodorus puts the story of the Amazons. (Diodorus Siculus HISTORICAL LIBRARY Book II, ch. I-II, XLIII-XLVI http://ancientrome.ru/antlitr/diodoros/diod02-f.htm; Scythian-Sarmatian mythology "Encyclopedia" Myths of the peoples of the world "» http:/ / enc.mail.ru/article/1900042824; http://traditio.ru/wiki/).

More than a thousand years, several centuries before the "Nativity" (conditional beginning of our era), in the civilized world by the time the epic was conducted on the formation of this city - 754/753 BC. But the educated Romans themselves have argued that the Scythians (Russians ancestors) on the ancient civilization, even the Egyptians (not to mention the Romans and Greeks). And allegedly (though the Romans without any "allegedly") for another 2,800 years before Rome achieved domination in Europe and Asia. Whether these ancient sayings of the Americans or the Germans, Chinese and many other earth nations, the planet would have long ago shook the world's birthday.
Let's call dews (right dew, etc.) of the first inhabitants of Russia's future, on land which - according to archaeologists - ancestors of modern humans appeared millions of years ago. North of the Caucasus, on the banks of the River Lena, in other places. In ancient times, our countrymen were called many different names. The most common long before our era was the "Scythians" (monasteries, wanderers, "ashkuzy" Assyrians, "Ashkenazim" in the Bible, as it later became known as the north-east and the Semites, "Old Jews").

Roman scholars 1U 1-cc. (More than 16 centuries ago), on the basis of Greek and other data support the theory that "a Scythian tribe has always been considered the most ancient, but between the Scythians and the Egyptians had long been dispute about the antiquity of origin." According to the Egyptians, "at the beginning of the world," the extreme of the country could not make or take people out of extreme heat and terrible cold. Only a moderate climate and fertility of Egypt did the lower reaches of the Nile, "the original home of the people," curiously consistent with modern ideas of geneticists.
The Scythians did not recognize the evidence of ancient temperate climate. Nature just created a creature capable of surviving in any terrain. And "how much more severe climate of Scythia Egyptian, so there stamina of body and soul." If you believe the ancient scholars, the origin of the Scythians allow the current parts of the world from a single continent, the creation of all the land of fire and water flow, initially falls on the ground. Version of civilization north of priority - because of tectonic and other reasons - is now also being developed fairly convincingly, as evidenced by the many authors of the book so that the data presented in the classical real scientific assumptions.
On the northern beliefs of the wise, a northern country (Scythia) before other afflicted sizzling hot cold, and the Scythian mountains Reefs (rips, Pisces) quickly got rid of the water gave rise to the great rivers of antiquity - Ra (Volga), Borisfenu (Dnieper), Tanais (Don ), Dvina (Eridani, Rudonu) and others. It's worth it to pay and pay attention to historical propaganda.
The conclusion is clear: "It used to start it (Scythia) to produce living beings." The Scythians have noticed that plenty of rivers overflowing their course Meotida (Sea of Azov), and then fills the Pontus (Black Sea) and Egyptian (Mediterranean) Sea .. Egypt is not saved and not saved from the pressure of the northern rivers dams and canals. But the king of the dam and silt deposits of the Nile, Egypt is still formed. "Such evidence Scythians prevailed over the Egyptians and the people always seemed to be more ancient origin" (Journal of Ancient History: AHH further. 1949. № 1. S.249: no problems with copying this source - you can contradict him, but you have an opinion formed by the Romans and account). Tools, and home language in the lands of Scythia were developed thousands of years. Elements of writing - if you start with ornaments - tens of millennia. Therefore, a fraction of truth in the ancient debate northerners and southerners are.
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The Bible defines the initial area of Ararat mountain of humanity and the Caucasus. For them, probably went Cain and built in the land of Nod (turnover: Don) was the first city of the planet - Enoch (Enog, Gelon Herodotus?). Kain - one of the forefathers of the chronicle and Kia nartsev-builders, allegedly built the Novgorod in Ilmen before walking around Andrew. So argue the Bible and the annals, and the legends of Slovenia and Ruse, MediaWiki - the future of Novgorod and Roos (then old) - were built around 2395 BC
From the descendants of Cain went "live in tents and have cattle", playing the harp and organ, blacksmiths, all guns in brass and iron. If you believe this kind of biblical allusions, the antediluvian northerners "nodovtsy" or "Don people") set the tone in animal husbandry, manufacturing of musical instruments in blacksmithing for thousands of years.
Archaeological evidence for this more and more.
Of the sons of Noah - he opposed the heirs of Cain, the flood destroyed - the first named Japheth (the Greeks Iapet, the father of Prometheus), whose sons were Homer (Cimmerian), Magog (Gog Ladyka north and later a "prince of Rosh: Russia"), Madai ( Mady, the name had great Scythian king, commander of VII century. BC. .)... e You can argue with these versions, but in the information society it is impossible to suppress or ignore. Indeed, in the ancient versions, and the data could somehow affect the actual reasoning of the northern and southern Wise IV-III millennium BC. Oe. depths of origin and the memory of their people. Here and in view of the climatic conditions that originally determined the economy and our ancient ancestors pedagogy-countrymen.
Roman historians knowledgeable Pompey Trog and Justin in I - III centuries BC talked about the most ancient Scythians with respect to the Egyptians, the Scythians polutoratysyacheletnem dominance in Europe and Asia, where over 1,300 years before the founding of Rome is the rule of Assyria ceased founder of Ning:
 "Asia was paying them (Scythians), a tribute for 1500 years, pay tribute put an end to the Assyrian king Nin ... At this time two youths from the Scythian royal family, and Plin Skolopit expelled from the machinations of the fatherland nobles dragged behind a lot of young people, settled on the shore of the river in Cappadocia and took the next Termodonta (plain )...» (VDI. 1949. № 1 . p.251).
In the work of Justin, down Pompey composition of the trough, contains the following chronological indication. After an ideological victory over the Scythians and the Egyptians began their domination over the Asia 1500 paid tribute to the Scythians. Then the Assyrians ruled Asia 1,300 years, and the Medes - 350 years. Thus, since the end of the Dominion Board of the Medes in touch with the Persian king (mid-VI century BC. Oe.), The victory of the Scythians, for Pompey Trog, is approximately 3700 BC. Oe.
Justin brings the story of young men the royal family of Pliny and Skolopite, their death and the origin of the Amazons. These events are placed in about two generations before the Trojan war, and march against the Scythian prince Panasagora Athens - in one generation.
Christian historian Oros, in general, using the work of Justin, to date it could not, because they contradicted the biblical flood, dating (it is noteworthy that in the "Chronicle of Eusebius' information about the ancient history of the Scythians did not). Achieving the Scythians domination in Europe and Asia took to the period of Orosei 1500 years to Nina that comes to 3553 BC. Oe. Orozo rearranged the sequence of wars. The victory of the Assyrian king Nina over the Scythians he dates for 1300 years before the founding of Rome (2053 BC. Oe.) Vesozis same war with the Scythians in 480 years to the founding of Rome (1233 BC. E..) Thus, Orozo, like Herodotus, the war dates back to shortly before the Trojan, but the result of the war, like Justin, called the victory of the Scythians. The story of Skolopite, Pliny and the Amazons have Orozo coincides with Justin.
Jordan, as telling about the victory of the Gothic king of the Egyptian pharaoh Tanauzisa Vesozisom, put it shortly before the Trojan War, mentioning also the origin of the Amazons, but the names Skolopita and Pliny down.
(Integrated development version, taking into account many factors: http://www.proza.ru/avtor/zolinpm...=15 # 15; http://www.proza.ru/avtor/zolinpm&book=10 # 10; http: / / www.proza.ru/avtor/zolinpm&book=8 # 8 by G. Vernadsky, BA Rybakov, N. Vasilieva, and others).
Great Scythia - a power that controlled the land is mainly from the lower reaches of the Danube to the north and Siberia. Around the borders of the Russian Empire in 1914 or the post-war Soviet Union. Now it's territory is divided into a number of states, multi-millennial historical closeness of the peoples who are often ignored. But this theory ignores haplogroups way.

Fig. Carriers of different haplogroups among the nations, to the time of Columbus.
http://www.proza.ru/2010/01/16/287 etc.
Tens of thousands of years ago, differed on the planet carriers of both male and female haplogroup ultimately acquire a multi-color localized in specific regions and large nations. Obviously an active part in the formation of ethnic groups in the early Scythians and the future of Russia carrier male haplogroup R1a, R1b, I, J, N, G (red, yellow, no dots, pink, green, dark purple, white + others) and women's H , U, T, F (blue, pink, light green, dark green + some others)
There is clearly a large degree have proven carrier male haplogroup O, D, L (blue, yellow with dots, dark gray, + some others) and female MNA (light green, dark purple in Australia, "a very purple," as American + others).
Of course, the proportions have changed that - for example - can be seen in the last millennium in Europe. But some mistakenly give the only haplogroup some specific ethnic groups on the principle that a haplogroup - one language.

Fig. Men's haplogroup and archaeological cultures of Europe in the 4 - 2 BC
Yellow and red colors indicate that haplogroup R1a and her R1b (attributable to the Scythians), from 4 century BC played an important role in the archaeological (ethno-cultural) processes in Europe. This is even more pronounced at the beginning of our era, when the Scythians had already appeared under the name of Sarmatians.


Around this structure (with the important role of male carriers of haplogroup R1a and R1b; their names are corrected, they are divided into sub-groups) remain Europe and European Russia and now.

Fig. The role of male carriers of haplogroup R1a and R1b in Europe today (they are active in other parts of the world, especially in North America).
Storage media HGs played a leading role and the formation of the Indo-Europeans and Turks with common origins in the district of the Altai almost 20 thousand years ago.
This is a "through" the existence in the region from England and Scandinavia to Siberia and India carriers of haplogroup R and its derivatives are even quite a few millennia suggests that these carriers could go out relatively early in the level of forming very early states - competing with Egypt and Sumer.
Egyptian scientists in 2010, Tutankhamun's mummy have analyzed, to their surprise turned out to be the pharaoh of the genus R1b, and for Russian DNA genealogists this finding was expected. http://haplogroup.narod.ru/celeb.html
Studies on the remains of Egyptian haplogroup is almost secret, since they substantially change the concept of world historiography, dominated for centuries. Egyptian Pharaohs - just Africans. Traces gaplolgruppy R1b found in other parts of Africa up to the center, some haplotypes indicate the age of 10 - 15 thousand years.
Of course, early statehood, especially the nomadic States (part of their continuing Indo-Pashtuns in Afghanistan) - this is not a familiar ancient Egypt or Sumeria statehood, Assyria and the Hittites, ancient Greece and Rome. But it must be specific and such states, marked by ancient scholars and carefully consider all of modern science.
The idea that medieval Russia continues the tradition of Great Scythia is dominated by the Byzantine and other authors. But the Great Scythia - this definition of Christian Russian chronicles in relation to the people and the reign of Russia, is borrowed from the Greek tradition. "The Scythians who are the Russian" appear in the foreign sources from the early Middle Ages.
Chronicle in an undated parts (up to 852:842, the) defines the Great Scythia in this context:
"Glade is living on their own, as we have said, were from the Slavic race and just after the clearings were called, and drevlyans descended from the same Slavic and also not immediately identified themselves as drevlyans; radzimichy same vyatichi - the kind of Poles. Were in fact two brothers at the Poles - Radim, and another - Vyatka, and came and sat down: Radim on Sozh, and he called radzimichy and Vyatka come down with her on the Oka River, from it got its name vyatichi. And lived with each other in the world of the meadow, drevlyans, northerners, radzimichy, vyatichi and Croats. Duleby have lived on the Bug, where now Volynyane and Ulichi Tivertsy and sat on the Dniester River and near the Danube. It was a lot of them: they sat on the Dniester River to the sea, and preserved their city and to this day, and the Greeks called them "Great Scythia." All these tribes had their own customs and laws of their fathers and tradition, and every - his temper. "(Translated by D. Likhachev).
Then, in determining the participants of a campaign against Constantinople in 907, "In the year 6415 (907). Oleg went to the Greeks, leaving Igor to Kiev, he took with him the same set of Vikings and Slavs, and Tschudi, and Krivichy and Meyrueis and drevlyan and Radimichi, and glades, and the northerners, and vyatichey, and Croats, and PRINCE, and Tivertsy known as interpreters: those of all the Greeks called the "Great Scythia." And with that, all went to Oleg on horseback and in vehicles, ships and was number 2000 "
Continued Russ traditions of Scythia, and Russian - and other traditions tavroskifov Scythian people celebrate many Byzantine and other sources.
http://traditio.ru/wiki/

This is only a small part of the evidence, doubts about the beginnings of statehood on the land Russia only since 862 AD. Late Roman writers began a domination of multiethnic Scythia in Europe and Asia by 3553 BC And then there were many important events, confirmed by archeology, anthropology, etnogenetikoy, historical genogeography and other sciences. By pozdnehristianskim chronicles, Scythian princes and Slovenes in 2395 Rus BC began to master the district Moysko (ilmenite). When, in 2053 BC one of the early kings of Assyria ceased to domination of the Scythians in Asia, there parachuted with their retinues young Scythian kings and Skolopit Plin. According to Herodotus, the Scythian kings generation of Targitai went from about 1512 BC

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